I want to thank everyone for keeping the race green for the last 88 laps since the last caution and my pitstop.
Alexander had the right counter strategy, short pitting early enough. But I held on, stuttering to the line in first place ![]()
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Didn't have the pace, but it was one of those days when strategy could work out.
Posts by Badbeatbill
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As I mentioned I am not after penalties, and I could have mentioned that it is not to take personal persé. It is however a prime example.
I stand by my earlier mention, that you are setting up black flags by waiting/expecting the order to be reset right before the pits.
I prefer order over chaos, this comment as it was made does not favor that.
To take my point to the extreme, I could just run from P20 up to the front at the pacecar, and start that pit shuffle myself.
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I just want to note that I very much disagree with the incomplete pacing mention in the penalties report.
Yves and Gabriel Sanchez raced ahead overtaking many cars they knew they would have to let by before entering the pits.
They raced up to 11th in line when entering pits about 18th or 19th. This is utterly counterproductive to the pacing cause.
You still lose as much, if not more time than when sorting the pace like normal people do.
Some damaged cars might just be slower to catch up to because of damage, or having spun.
Holding your relative position while you wait for those actually having to pass cars should be the logical way to go.
If this is not considered the case, I'll happily join in this way of life, to see what happens next.
I'm not about to get a black flag because these tactics are not discouraged.
I don't need penalties handed out, but want a logical standard.
You catch up at speed, keep your relative position, follow instruction by iracing and try and sort out the order as quickly as the situation allows.
If you feel someone is catching up to slow for no reason, report them.
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That was fun, yet very dicey for a little while (74 to 79).
On lap 86 it was over for me. Moment between Rafa and Gabi right in front of me.
Too much damage done. Interesting how we had two separate incidents there that would have brought out a caution on their own.
We are getting bullied by the Czech train atm... Not happy with own performance in that.
It is very hard to line up 3 to 4 cars good enough to put up a challenge.
As for the troubles on track positions during the safetycar, I can relate to it sucking that we cannot always catch up. But this is really hardly ever a huge issue.
Bigger issue is waiting far too long to sort out the order (should you want to pit). You simply cannot have an 'after you sir' shuffle with multiple cars right before the pit entrance. That will cost way more time that catching up a bit later, and ends up in black flags.
Had to skip on the pits because Gabriel Sanchez waited far too long to try and get the correct position.
This is either incompetence, or a strategy to pin black flags on others. -
Felt like the green run ending wasn't helping. But I stole a 5th place there, by virtue of being on the bottom lane.
Kind of boring racing, but that's just how this combo works out.
Grats on the win, would have been a bit rough to lose out due to the oddly timed green flag run.
But that is Nascar. -
Well, this is a good reminder that VO takes donations to help keep the lights on.
So good to bump this topic. -
Also, how can we confirm someone is actually allowed to race while a raceban was posted the race before.
I know one could perhaps appeal to still start, but would have to ask them if they are actually allowed to start.Which is a bit awkward. Nothing personal Stephan Ganzer but just seen this situation before and it is confusing.
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I cannot stay out of trouble very well so far.
Not much fun to race tho. Cannot make much happen here.
Again poorly timed damage to my front from a checkup on a start. But at that point the track position was already bad anyways because of earlier incident. -
Euro NASCAR V8GP is fun.
Downside, no oval iracing setups included.
Upside, you can run Martinsville with rain.
Sadly a niche car that one has to buy, but could support some fun oval races. -
Got loose out of T4, killed my car (3min optionals).
Motivation to run this car is pretty low. My understanding of it is just going backwards
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Killed my race on first stint. Horrible tire management.
But mostly killed it by speeding on pitroad for my first pitstop....
Atleast I didn't hit the barrels tho
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Congrats Jonas, good win.
I used to enjoy road course more with these cars. But I lost pace since then. Probably part of why it feels like less fun right now.
Also won't help when I practice less. Tho I don't see myself gaining much from practice, outside of consistency.
Messed up my qualifying lap. That atleast made it a bit more fun to drive.
Finishing 7th is ok for me after starting 15th.
LF was at 27% after first stint, 47% after second.
I'm trying to be slow in carrousel (and not abusing it), but just not doing anything that is helping the LF it seems.
As for Yves , you hit the skateboard-rail curb, coming out of the 2nd to last corner.
That'll just pick up the rears and try to kill you. -
One to forget.
I lost control after being moved up the track by the one that just drove thru Michael Krafzik (a caution before that).
No caution for my incident, but I was awarded with 6m50s optional repairs.
Spiraled out of control after that. Just a bit too slow getting out of the pits on repairs (-1 lap), and got black flag because the back of the field did not catch up before we went green.
Didn't actually do my stop-&-go right on first drivethru the pits (-3 laps).
No wavearound a caution later and just had to settle for cruising with the damaged goods.
Race was ruined anyways after the damage anyways. -
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Strategy worked out for a nice 4th place. Could have worked out even better if we didn't have thát many cautions in the end...
On long green flag runs I feel I would have been top 8 to top 10 max.
Gutted for Jose, that was his win for sure.
Sorry Lukasz, and all those behind him on outside line with the restart on lap 61. Restarted in 3rd gear, not my smartest moment, but thankfully shifting back to 2nd quickly, but lost about 4 car lenghts there.
People need to brake for incidents, but I will say this setup was an example of one that kills you, if you turn your wheel right to avoid something. I also lost it avoiding a wreck coming out of T1, which only damaged my tires (that I used to the end). But it worked out still. -
Boring for the most part. Can't do much to overtake.
I slightly moved up on David on final lap T3, sorry for that.
Was not expecting a top 5 out of it, but some random late race skirmishes worked out well for me to get up to 5th. -
Congrats David!
I have not mastered this place yet, but 7th isn't that bad.
Roland, I hope that last restart was worth almost ending your season.
You first absolutely run me up the track in T2 to setup a pass.
And to top that, you try and clear yourself on my front bumper in T1 a lap later.
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I was not feeling fast, but after Alex turned Kelvin into my path, on lap 23, I had to deal with 5 minutes of optional repairs.
Sadly couldn't get that fully fixed in the remaining caution. Still felt really slow even with only minimal damage remaining.
So 20th is the best I could do.
Good comment about the racing standard in voice chat, Alex. Tho I would have not spoken up after having damaged two cars earlier.
Since this wasn't even a yellow flag, you are going to come off easy from that incident however way you turn it...
Huge loophole in the yellowcard system sadly. Not making any fans with moves like that.
Guess that happens when you are further back in the field. So put myself in that spot. Even predicted that cars not holding a line on the low side would spell trouble. Just didn't get to dodge all of it. -
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7.6.4. When displayed with an orange circle, fondly known as a “meatball”, this indicates your vehicle has suffered excessive
damage and it is unsafe to continue racing. The driver must return to the pits for required repairs before completing 3
laps or be disqualified.I got mine on lap 184 out of 187. So I guess you get 3 laps after the lap that you get the flag, and/or they let you go if you reach the white flag.
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This my second Phoenix race in a row that I finish with a meatball flag...
Happy to hold on to 5th.
Coming into this session I was not expecting to be able to make my tires last for a full tank. NIS on wednesday was rough for me.
In the end I didn't, but atleast I just about managed it correctly.
Sorry Jakub for lap 110. Did not mean to run into you.
Track wasn't made very wide by the car on my left side, but I should have braked a bit earlier.
Congrats Bruno.